Who's Wagner? Who's Prigozhin? It appears, 'Wagner' is a russian mercenary group led by a character named Prigozhin. The group was on the way to Moscow threatening the government with mutiny.
At the end of a very dramatic Saturday, they abandoned the rebellion plan and left for Belarus in exchange for the lifting of criminal charges against them.
I'm not in politics; in fact, I detest politics and politicians. However, I can't stay indifferent when all kinds of adventurers (and that includes charismatic Zelensky of Ukraine) put people's life in jeopardy, endanger the security of their nation, and might even lead to a World War 3.
To defy and challenge a super power like Russia and its leader Putin, is not heroism, but suicidal adventure.
Each nation has its own problems - big problems (economic, military, social) . Instead of concentrating on solving them, politicians in various countries waste their time trying to interfere in the affairs of other nations . They make use of disinformation, and even supply of arms. This could lead to nothing good.
Voy a ser breve, porque respeto que te cueste hablar de polÃtica, y más en estos tiempos.
ReplyDelete1º Dejar claro que el invadido es Ucrania, y el "INVASOR", es Rusia, con el descerebrado de PutÃn como lÃder.
2º Zelensky no ha puesto en peligro la vida de nadie, ni ha desafiado a ningún paÃs, está haciendo lo que cualquier paÃs soberano harÃa, defenderse e intentar recuperar lo que le intenta robar, el loco de PutÃn que ha organizado esta guerra, simplemente para poder mantenerse en el poder.
3º y con esto ya termino, aunque tengo razones para escribir un libro; si hablas de desinformación imagino que te referirás a Rusia, que tiene engañado a su pueblo, con la frase de "operación especial", cuando están muriendo ciento de miles jóvenes rusos, no les llamo soldados, porque la gran mayorÃa que son gente llanas han ido obligados a la guerra. Algún dÃa su pueblo hará justicia con él, cuando se enteren de la verdad, y del número de huérfanos, viudas, padres etc. que ha dejado en su paÃs por pura ambición polÃtica.
Todo se paga en la vida, y ojalá que él lo pague pronto, porque él y solamente él, es el único que nos puede meter en una guerra mundial o nuclear.
Un fuerte abrazo, amiga Duta, y "GLORIA A UCRANIA". Perdona, Duta, pero no puedo con las injusticias, y este prenda es otro Hitler, o peor, como el que acabó con la vida de millones de judÃos.
Thanks for the comment, Manuel. Many people think like you do - that Putin is another Hitler, that it is Ukraine the victim which got invaded first etc...
DeleteWell, Ukraine, though an independent state (from 1991) , is still seen as part of the big former Soviet Union family, with big brother Russia keeping an eye on her.
The invasion by Russia was somehow provoked by an Ukraine very eager to join Nato and the European Union, and get rid of Russia's influence.
Hopefully, things end well for Ukraine, and the West won't get tired of helping her.
Estoy totalemente de acuerdo con estas palabras!
DeleteI am firmly on the side of Ukraine and the Ukrainians. When all is said and done Russia was the aggressor. And I do understand fighting for your freedom. How I wish that world peace did not seem like an impossible dream.
ReplyDeleteI like your firm attitude EC. on the ukrainian matter, and believe in your sincere wish for world peace.
DeleteWhat do you think started the war, Ele?
DeleteWhat war, Sandi? The russian- ukrainean war? I've given my brief opinion in my reply to the first comment (Manuel).
DeleteThe war was sparkled up, to my mind, by the (perhaps legit but too hasty) aspirations and attempts of Ukraine to leave the russian sphere of influence after the collapse of the Soviet Union, and join Nato and the European Community.
In Hebrew we have a saying: 'don't be right, be clever'. I'm afraid Ukraine was perhaps right (as an independent country), but not clever.
Yes. I was asking EC because she called Russia the aggressor. They see the West (USA and NATO mostly) as the aggressor. There was a coup in 2014 in Ukraine, the Maidan Coup or some call it an uprising. Our government here in the USA supported it. NATO moved eastward after the fall of the Soviet Union, after promising not to. There is a lot more to the story than Russian aggression. They are not the only aggressors here.
DeleteThe threat of mutiny was a scary thought.
ReplyDeleteIndeed, Christine - very scary. Mutiny is revolt, rebellion by soldiers against their officers and authorities. That could trigger a war.
DeleteI agree - suicidal!
ReplyDeleteIt's like the David-Goliath situation. Hopefully, just like in the Bible, God will not abandon David.
DeleteI have supported Ukraine from the first day of the invasion, and honor their bravery on my blog daily. Prigozhin, and we don't know what inducements he accepted other than no charges, has shown the weakness of Putin, and the whole invasion scenario has shown how hollow are Russia's claims to be a world power. I hope this speeds his exit. Ukraine is a sovereign nation with the right to associate with any international group they choose to.
ReplyDeleteBut I strongly doubt we know even part of what's going on.
I've noticed that support for Ukraine in your blog, Boud, and I admire your firmly-held conviction.
Delete"...politicians in various countries waste their time trying to interfere in the affairs of other nations..."
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God help us all.
Interference from external factors, make things worse, as foreign interests get in the way of achieving compromise and peace. between the conflicting parties. Indeed, may God help us all!
DeleteI'm also cheering for Ukraine and was watching what was going on in Russia.
ReplyDeleteSome of this is mind boggling to me. I wish these countries would just leave each other alone, but that's not how things work.
The situation is both confusing and scary. Hopefully, God will make things right and end the chaos.
DeleteMari, why?
DeleteI do follow some politics and yes, this was suicide!
ReplyDeleteBoth the ukrainian-russian war, and the Wagner surprise "march of justice" put Russia under big pressure, yet this nation is big and resilient, and those acting against it are bound to fail.
DeleteI've got to catch up with your blog. I enjoy another point of view. Being American, I cannot truly understand the Eastern European mindset.
ReplyDeleteFor the sake of the ordinary Russian, I hope Putin leaves office and someone more humane and capable steps up to becomes the new President. We have too many old men running the world.
I've actually begun to admire politicians in that they have a skill set someone like me would never possess.
Indeed, "... too many old men running the world". Biden's age (80) is also often mentioned in the media.
DeleteAmericans have a problem too. Too many old politicians guard their positions and younger ones are not being developed
DeleteTrue. Putin is 70 now; he started at the right age. No apparent successor.
DeleteBiden is 80 now; intends to run again for Presidency. No apparent successor in his party.
We were just discussing Wagner other night. It is all so bizarre. But Putin has been bizarre from the get go. It is all so unsettling. Everyone has their agendas and they just keep coming. If only we could find a solution, but I have a feeling nobody wants one..at least at the moment and it does leave me terrified.
ReplyDeleteYes, the Wagner group is bizarre, and the whole situation in Russia is confusing. You've probably got the right feeling about nobody wishing a solution.
DeleteI so agree. Politicians are the problem I fear. Janice
ReplyDeleteYou've summed it up perfectly, Janice. Yes, I'm afraid, politicians are the problem.
DeleteRussia broke the international law invading Ukraine. She is the only agressor.
ReplyDeleteAs for the coup... I don't get. I have heard some experts and they don't understand it either.
Well, international court at Hague, should have dealt with that invasion. They stiii can, methinks.
DeleteAs for Wagner group's march to Kremlin, that's more than bizarre.
There is always someone fighting someone in the world unfortunately. I read about Wagner and what he and his men were doing, and thought on my goodness, is this it! Then in the morning time, my time I read that is was all over - thank goodness.
ReplyDeleteYes, thank goodness it was all over, at the end of the day. People with guns that disobey authority are very dangerous to themselves and to the population.
DeleteI am a firm supporter of Ukraine. While no one would like to see Putin out of power more than I, it's sometimes a matter of "be careful what you wish for" because the end might not always be better. I'm glad it ended when it did -- although I'm not really certain it HAS ended. Just gone under.
ReplyDeleteBad things never really end; as you say, 'they just go under' , till next time.
DeleteLooks like there's more going on there than we are being told - there's no goodies in this and, as we learned with Saddam Hussein, you get rid of one tyrant and it may leave a gap for another. We have to protect ourselves from threat so I guess we are friends with those closest to us and enemies with those who challenge them. But It's been interesting to see how an army of mercenaries can change the direction of a war in seconds, and a warning to us all. Betty (Elderberry-Rob). I don't know enough about politics to have a view, passive observer :)
ReplyDeleteHi Betty. Good to hear from you.
DeleteTrue - you get rid of one tyrant and then, another one comes along. Anyway, the mercenary group will give us food to thought for a while.
i hate to read about this war... it makes me vomit and cry that nowadays such violence in happening...
ReplyDeleteI understand how you feel ; violence makes us sick and frightened.
DeleteI am a supporter of Ukraine. What Russia did by invading and by killing innocent people for the sake of returning Ukraine to Russian control is absolutely unforgiveable. I feel for those people and I would share no tears for Putin. I would love to see him ousted but will the next leader be any better, probably not. War is never the answer and those who start wars are never the ones actually fighting in it. They sit in the background like playing a video game. Right now, the world is in a big mess and it seems like it will always be.
ReplyDeleteWell said! War is never the answer and those starting it are not the fighters. I totally agree with your conclusion: "Right now the world is in a big mess..".
DeleteOh, that we could live in peace ...
ReplyDeleteOur world is not in a good place at the moment.
All the best Jan
The world is definitely not in a good place at present. We need peace; we need love not war.
DeleteBeautiful blog
ReplyDeleteThank you.
DeleteI am firmly behind Ukraine. Putin's invasion and brutal treatment of the Ukrainian people with the aid of the Wagner Group is unconscionable. War is such a terrible terrible thing.
ReplyDeleteI am baffled, like most of the world, about what happened last Saturday - utterly bizarre.
Lorrie, let me remind you and everybody else of the Cuban crisis in 1960. Cuba is geographically close to the USA, but because of her communist regime she was under the influence of the Soviet Union (USSR). The soviets (russians) deployed some missiles to Cuba , and the americans gave them an ultimatum. No super power is going to give up its sphere of influence. I'm sorry about the suffering of the ukraineans, but there is more at stake here. Russia has China and Iran as allies and they might attack the West that supports Ukraine.
DeleteI think in the U.S. we are all in the dark, everyone has forgotten what is going on over there!
ReplyDeleteExactly. In fact, we are all in the dark about things that are going on there. Pity about the suffering of people, and the many victims!
DeleteSome leaders are just warmongers and most of them have been men.
ReplyDeleteRight. In the meantime, people suffer and die.
DeleteI've been following the news and this mutiny shocked me.
ReplyDeleteTo this moment, I still don;t understand what has actually happened.
DeleteI apologize for not visiting your blog for a while- I somehow lost the link but this time, hopefully, I left Internet breadcrumbs. I still don't understand the mutiny and the details seem to get more surreal as the days passing. I am a firm supporter of Ukraine defending themselves from invasion of their territory. The really scary thing to me is our human nature - it seems the human race is bent on self destruction and strongmen just want to speed that process along for their own wealth and power.
ReplyDelete"...it seems the human race is bent on self destruction..." I totally agree with this view. Sad state of affairs.
DeleteNot heorism but suicidal adventure... you stated that accurately. I am so fed up with the world situation and these men of all nations puffing up their chests and bringing us to the brink.
ReplyDeleteWe are, sadly, all fed up with the world situation.
Delete( Linda, what happened to your blog? I can't find it).
We can never understand how the minds of men work.
ReplyDeleteThis war, could have, perhaps, been prevented. It seems the ego of the two males: Putin and Zelensky, has worked additional hours.
DeleteI too was wondering about Wagner and you explained it very well. Yes, I too agree on that part of not waking up the sleeping giants.
ReplyDeleteI like the " ..not waking up the sleeping giants".
DeleteYeah I heard a little bit about that on Twitter otherwise I wouldn't have heard about it at all.
ReplyDeleteWell, not everyone is interested in politics, but even then, things just catch one's eye - in the media or on the social platforms.
DeleteAs we know, Ukraine wasn’t the aggressor. I held out hope when I heard of the Wagner group and their march to Moscow. Maybe this will signal the end of Putin in the months to come. However, I fear a desperate Putin will take the nuclear option. We live in dangerous times.
ReplyDeletePutin is not as desperate as pictured in the West, but he's definitely dangerous and might make use of nuclear weapons.
DeleteI too stay away from politics and just hear bits and pieces on the local morning news, the only news I listen to. So I can't intelligently speak as to what is going on with Putin and Zelensky, but I hope that WW3 does not happen, at least in my time.
ReplyDeleteWe've got enough trouble as it is with climate change; we don't need wars, certainly not a world war3.
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